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The Process | Band Of Outsiders

03 December 2009, 18.30 | Posted in Selectism Q & A | 4 comments »

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In the last of our process series we catch with Band of Outsiders founder, Scott Sternberg. Everything that’s needed to be said about Band has been said already, so just take a leap to read about the process in his own words.

Well, it depends on the product – each has its own development cycle and needs. Shirts and ties are driven by fabric and finishing development, while suits are about tweaking tailoring and working with very old techniques with sometimes very non-traditional fabrics. Outerwear, knitwear, and shoes are usually developed as a way to expand on the ideas for the specific collection, so these involve a lot of research into vintage items and cultural history.

I work with a few different mills on fabric development, and buy classics from their stock collections; there is a long back and forth with the fabric development, getting colors and hand feel right, wash tests, shrinkage, etc. I also work with dye houses here in Los Angeles on different techniques – this past season we did a bunch of hand dip dyes and airbrushed oxfords. I’m always trying to play around with Oxford cloth shirting and do something new with it, something that can be achieved uniquely here in LA (last season we worked with screen printing techniques).

The suits are made at Martin Greenfield Clothiers, a 100+ year old hand-tailoring factory in Bushwick, New York. The shirts are cut, sewn, washed/dyed, etc. in Los Angeles. The ties are cut and hand-rolled in Manhattan. Some sweaters are made in Scotland at an old factory in Hawick – these are under the Glenmac label, an old brand from the 60s and 70s which is super expensive.

Other sweaters are made in various places – Peru, China, Japan, depending on who has the best resources (for example, Chinese cashmere can be superior depending on the type of sweater, so we’ll make those sweaters there – we do so not to save money or become part of the evil Empire but because it’s the best solution for a given product). Sperry’s are made in China, where they make all of their product, but usually in the sample rooms as the quantities are relatively small for them.

We’re moving all production of outerwear to Italy, where our women’s collection is made in full, so we can achieve the quality and level of detail while keeping the price at least realistic. Last, we just started a new line of polo shirts called “This is not a polo shirt.”, which is sort of a meditation on polo shirts – a line of polo shirts about polo shirts. These are all made in Japan. We develop all of the fabric with this super rad fabric mill that has machines you could only find in Tokyo.


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4 comments
  1. Pat D.:

    So sad to hear BoO is doing so much of it\’s production overseas. I guess no one can resist the temptation of maximizing profit. :(

  2. Pat, while that was once true, these days US factories often don\’t have the same technical capabilities or know-how to do the type of construction necessary in most garments. The textile industry here has suffered from years of neglect and off-shoring, leaving most of the knowledge in the hands of retirees or the dead.

    It takes a great deal of investment, both in time and people, as well as flexibility to make garments here. It\’s a real labor of love for the few that are doing it regularly without owning their own factories.

    This isn\’t to knock the US textile industry–far from that. Garments here are often very well done. It\’s just to say that things produced overseas are often done so for reasons other than trimming margins.

  3. Very interesting and honest explanation from the designer.

  4. Mike:

    It\’s not about maximising profit, designers have to approach their business as smart and clever as possible. Whilst many designers can\’t accomodate the time to explain the decision making process behind making the clothes, this is as similar to many other current designers. Moving all outerwear to Italy is a smart decision not only for his business but also for us. This ensures a seamless leap where quality and attention is astute. This is where the Milanese based collections are made including Jil Sander and Maison Martin Margiela. And don\’t think for a second that somehow Chinese cashmere is inferior. Where do you think cashmere comes from and which neigbouring country has the most?

    Scott could have easily made his suits in Italy too but he\’s chosen not too. And from what I have seen him do, he\’s approaching his clothes in the best technical fabrication way.

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